Comments on: Screencast: Introduction to the Scala Developer Tools http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools (permanently in beta) Sun, 29 Aug 2010 20:01:44 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Vladimir Kelman http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3885 Vladimir Kelman Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:19:09 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3885 Hi Daniel! I have recently placed a short "A novice Scala programmer: Eclipse vs. IntelliJ IDEA vs. Netbeans." series to my blog. http://pro-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/07/novice-scala-programmer-eclipse-vs_3251.html Hi Daniel! I have recently placed a short “A novice Scala programmer: Eclipse vs. IntelliJ IDEA vs. Netbeans.” series to my blog.
http://pro-thoughts.blogspot.com/2008/07/novice-scala-programmer-eclipse-vs_3251.html

]]> By: Eelco Hillenius http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3629 Eelco Hillenius Wed, 21 May 2008 20:02:16 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3629 Thanks for keeping mortals like me interested in Scala Daniel! I hope one day someone (read: company with resources to spare) recognizes Scala's potential (if only as a viable answer to F#), and commits to sponsoring really good IDE support. My main interest in Scala is still that it would make most of my Wicket code a lot shorter and more elegant (replacing the tons of anonymous classes with functions for instance). Nathan Hamblen had a nice post about that, but if you're ever bored... ;-) Thanks for keeping mortals like me interested in Scala Daniel! I hope one day someone (read: company with resources to spare) recognizes Scala’s potential (if only as a viable answer to F#), and commits to sponsoring really good IDE support.

My main interest in Scala is still that it would make most of my Wicket code a lot shorter and more elegant (replacing the tons of anonymous classes with functions for instance). Nathan Hamblen had a nice post about that, but if you’re ever bored… ;-)

]]> By: testingScala http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3556 testingScala Mon, 05 May 2008 18:44:42 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3556 I think i came to Scala through your "Scala for Java refugees". Instantly i tried Scala using the "main" plugin with eclipse... It was a horror. At first most things seemed "ok" but if you get to work with packages and diffrent classes it messed up so fast. Last weekend i checked Scala on CLI. And voilá my Code was working! That got me really angry, but even more i am angry now to myself , lol. Because i bookmarked your screencast long ago but missed to look at! Especially the point about the "new" plugin which i have high hopes for! I think i came to Scala through your “Scala for Java refugees”. Instantly i tried Scala using the “main” plugin with eclipse…
It was a horror. At first most things seemed “ok” but if you get to work with packages and diffrent classes it messed up so fast. Last weekend i checked Scala on CLI. And voilá my Code was working! That got me really angry, but even more i am angry now to myself , lol. Because i bookmarked your screencast long ago but missed to look at!
Especially the point about the “new” plugin which i have high hopes for!

]]> By: Daniel Spiewak http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3543 Daniel Spiewak Thu, 01 May 2008 14:56:53 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3543 Yeah, I'm considering setting up an unofficial mirror for the plugin here at Code Commit. Alternatively, I could just build the plugin myself and upload the results. That of course is predicated on getting the build working locally... :-) Either way, I agree that it's a nasty pain that the update site doesn't work consistently. Here's a relatively recent rebuild that was uploaded by one of the contributors: http://luc.schess.ch/ch.epfl.lamp.sdt_2.7.1.r14724-b20080421111118.zip Yeah, I’m considering setting up an unofficial mirror for the plugin here at Code Commit. Alternatively, I could just build the plugin myself and upload the results. That of course is predicated on getting the build working locally… :-)

Either way, I agree that it’s a nasty pain that the update site doesn’t work consistently. Here’s a relatively recent rebuild that was uploaded by one of the contributors: http://luc.schess.ch/ch.epfl.lamp.sdt_2.7.1.r14724-b20080421111118.zip

]]> By: David Linsin http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3537 David Linsin Thu, 01 May 2008 08:18:49 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3537 Hey Daniel, could you maybe share the plugin or do you know another link to a download, cause the update site returns 404 since days... thx regards, david Hey Daniel,

could you maybe share the plugin or do you know another link to a download, cause the update site returns 404 since days…

thx

regards, david

]]> By: ynw http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3532 ynw Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:59:25 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3532 A good IDE support will surely improve the use experience of Scala developers A good IDE support will surely improve the use experience of Scala developers

]]> By: Daniel Spiewak http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3516 Daniel Spiewak Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:47:21 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3516 A combination of Camtasia and Audacity. Camtasia handled the video recording, the mixing and the final rendering. After I did the video, I recorded the voice-over in Audacity and then imported it into the Camtasia project for the final mix. A combination of Camtasia and Audacity. Camtasia handled the video recording, the mixing and the final rendering. After I did the video, I recorded the voice-over in Audacity and then imported it into the Camtasia project for the final mix.

]]> By: Brian Repko http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3512 Brian Repko Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:07:06 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3512 Daniel, What software did you use to create the screencast? Brian Daniel,

What software did you use to create the screencast?

Brian

]]> By: Patrick Wright http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3508 Patrick Wright Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:48:23 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3508 @Daniel--it is important, but it's a matter of resources. For anything above simply highlighting based on syntax (which you may be able to do purely with regexes) and project/file support, you're talking about having several dedicated engineers who are intimately familar with the language, testers to test the thing, people to document it...I understand when they aim first to support those languages that already have a foothold in the market. I would love if all of this came for free and we could just install a plugin for any language for which there is a compiler or interpreter. I just think it's too much work to expect that to happen. I think the NetBeans approach, of sponsoring plugin development (which IDEA has done in the last couple of years as well) isn't bad, though without ongoing support most plugins end up becoming less useful over time, IMO. I'm hoping that as the plugin support for Scala improves, developers will start using it, and that might convince companies to start dedicating resources to it. Patrick @Daniel–it is important, but it’s a matter of resources. For anything above simply highlighting based on syntax (which you may be able to do purely with regexes) and project/file support, you’re talking about having several dedicated engineers who are intimately familar with the language, testers to test the thing, people to document it…I understand when they aim first to support those languages that already have a foothold in the market. I would love if all of this came for free and we could just install a plugin for any language for which there is a compiler or interpreter. I just think it’s too much work to expect that to happen.

I think the NetBeans approach, of sponsoring plugin development (which IDEA has done in the last couple of years as well) isn’t bad, though without ongoing support most plugins end up becoming less useful over time, IMO. I’m hoping that as the plugin support for Scala improves, developers will start using it, and that might convince companies to start dedicating resources to it.

Patrick

]]> By: Daniel Spiewak http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools/comment-page-1#comment-3507 Daniel Spiewak Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:25:19 +0000 http://www.codecommit.com/blog/eclipse/screencast-introduction-to-the-scala-developer-tools#comment-3507 It's a shame that IDE companies / organizations don't realize how significant this process really is. NetBeans is devoting a lot of resources to Ruby, and JetBrains is spending time on Groovy, but I think that Scala may be more important to the future of development than either of these languages. Whichever IDE manages to produce a real environment for Scala first will control the genre for years. Just look at what NetBeans Ruby has done for the Ruby IDE world. There are now alternative IDEs with similar capabilities, but everyone is using NetBeans now because it was the first free Ruby IDE to really merit the name. It’s a shame that IDE companies / organizations don’t realize how significant this process really is. NetBeans is devoting a lot of resources to Ruby, and JetBrains is spending time on Groovy, but I think that Scala may be more important to the future of development than either of these languages. Whichever IDE manages to produce a real environment for Scala first will control the genre for years. Just look at what NetBeans Ruby has done for the Ruby IDE world. There are now alternative IDEs with similar capabilities, but everyone is using NetBeans now because it was the first free Ruby IDE to really merit the name.

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